The Science & Soul of Manifestation with Matt Cooke

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If you've ever wondered how to turn your dreams into reality, you're in for a treat. Today we're interviewing renowned manifestation coach and thought leader Matt Cooke.

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Welcome to the Inspiring Innovator Show your go to podcast for powerful tools, actionable trainings, and inspiring stories to elevate your life and grow your business. Catch all our solo episodes and interviews at Inspiring Show.

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Com. Where are your hosts? Paul and Jennifer Hensel

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now? After nearly a decade in real estate? Matt Cooke took a transformative leap to launch his successful digital marketing business before fully dedicating himself to the art and science of manifestation. Matt has a large global audience and brings a unique blend of wisdom, science, empathy, and practical insight to his work.

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At the heart of Matt's mission is a profound desire to connect deeply with spiritual seekers and like minded souls. He believes in the power of authentic relationships and the magic that happens when people come together to support one another in manifesting their best lives. He lives with his wife Corisand and their son Humphrey in Cornwall, United Kingdom, and we know Matt because he has transformed our lives.

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We've taken Matt's Evolve program and we highly recommend it. And so welcome to the show, Matt Cooke. Oh, thank you both. That was such a lovely introduction. Thank you for that. It's great to be here. Congratulations on your new baby. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Three months old already. Bless him. So it's just amazing. Thank you. Now, now we listen to your guided meditations and watch your social media clips every morning.

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You explain this topic of manifestation in such a relatable way. Can you explain or give your

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definition of manifest station for our audience? Sure. Of course. Manifestation very, very simply is the deliberate act of bringing something that you desire into your physical world very simply, and that involves numerous things. It involves your thoughts, how you feel and how you act.

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Very simply, those three things thinking, feeling and acting, what we could associate as our personality. So it's really who we are in the present moment, which dictates what we attract into our life. So, in a nutshell, whoever's listening, if there's something that you want in your life, a dream, a vision that's a manifestation bringing that dream into your physical world.

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Oh, that's so amazing. Can you tell us a little bit about manifestation and the quantum field? Because you explain that so well? Yeah, sure. So let me just back up slightly for a moment to give this more context. So I and a lot of people might already know this if, if they've already been following me. But for anyone who's hearing me for the first time, I didn't become a manifestation coach.

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It happened by accident. You know, I was I wasn't spiritual at all. I was, for ten years here in England, in real estate. And then, as Paul was explaining in the introduction, I transitioned out, into digital marketing because I very simply wanted to get out of the rat race. So I then transitioned to digital marketing, which was really similar-ish to real estate.

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It just gave me a way to earn money on the internet. But at the same time, I was sort of battling with my purpose in life and who I was and what I was here to do, and I was just unfulfilled. And a lot of people know this who followed my story. This was back in early part of 2019.

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In 2017 July 2017, my mum passed away and in February 2019 had an extraordinary spiritual experience where one evening I, connected with my mother out of out of the blue. I didn't predict it. Didn't try for it to happen. Had a very strange, outwardly bodily experience where I had a conversation with her, and it's safe to say it blew my mind because I wasn't spiritual.

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I didn't believe in the afterlife. I wanted to, but I didn't. And, I came out of that experience needing to know what happened, how I could connect with her again. And actually, the bigger question was, there's more to reality than meets our eye. So on my mission to try and solve and figure out what type of person I am, these big questions I very, very simply first understood something very important that scientifically everything is energy.

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And we don't necessarily know that because everything seems relatively hard and physical, the things we touch, the life we live. But actually, if we break everything down to its purest form, we get to energy, and energy can't be created nor destroyed. It can only transition to another form of existence, another realm of reality. If you like another vibration and actually diving further still into, you know, the quantum aspect, quantum mechanics, we only perceive about 0.0035% of reality.

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The majority of reality is empty space, invisible fields of energy. So just bringing this back to your question, Jennifer, it made me understand how I connected with my mother because yes, the physical aspect of her is gone, but what I spoke with never goes because energy can't ever be destroyed. It can only transition to another frequency and everyone is experiencing this day to day.

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You know, everyone right now is listening has radio waves coming through that room. For example, broadband Wi-Fi. We just don't see it. But if we tune ourselves in, we pick up different information. So I needed to know what this realm was. Where is this energy? Where is it coming from? This 99.9% of reality? What is it? And that's where we get down to the quantum realm.

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You know, if we break down anything physical in our world, down to its purest form, we get to atoms, then we get to subatomic particles. And then if we try and understand where these subatomic particles come from, electrons, photons, for example, they pop in and out of existence through unifying fields, quantum fields. And then that's what really interested me.

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And then we start going into the quantum mechanics. And sort of your question, so what fascinated me about the quantum field is that there is an infinite amount of energy there. Now, if we think of energy, well, energy is always in a state of movement. The primary law of the universe is the law of vibration, which dictates that energy always vibrates and that movement of vibration has a frequency and frequencies rich in information.

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You know, just like tuning into a vibrational frequency of a radio station, you tune in, you tune into the frequency, you pick up the information being the channel. So that was very easy for me to understand. Okay. If the quantum field is infinite, is an infinite amount of energy where energy, everything else is energy, then maybe I can tap into that to manifest.

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And then at the same time I'm starting to read books like The Secret and Doctor Jodie Spencer and Neville Goddard and, you know, all these amazing spiritual teachers. And I start applying it and I start figuring out that actually, this works. I can manifest things into my life, and I can go deeper still, if you like. But there's a very specific way to manifest from the quantum.

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But if I answered your question, yeah, I loved it when you talked about, observing, and that's really helped us. Can you talk about that? Yeah, sure. So, okay, I mentioned, the foundation really, of physical reality or atoms, everything's made from atoms, but atoms are 99.9% invisible fields of energy. The fraction of an atom that's physical is the subatomic particle, which is the electron or the photon.

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Now, that itself is what's really interesting because like I mentioned, it actually it doesn't live as a localized piece of matter until it's observed. So when it's not being observed, the subatomic particle disappears or it merges back with quantum fields and it's called wavefunction collapse, or the observer effect in quantum mechanics, which dictates that when, consciousness, whether it's a detector, a, a piece of equipment, or even scientists own observation looks at subatomic particles, they, they pop in and out of existence.

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It's called wavefunction collapse, the wave being the energy of the quantum field and the particle being the subatomic particle. When it's not being observed, it disappears back into that infinite field of energy. But when it is being observed, it collapses from a wave into physical reality. And that's called the wavefunction collapse. Or better said, the observer effect. So what's fascinating about that is we are observers, but we're not aware of our observation because 95% of who we are is subconsciously programed.

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So most people's dominant observation of their realities, programs consciously so people are unaware of how much they moan, how much they, allow that some, limiting beliefs take to take over, how much people, complain, until badly about themselves. And only 5% of who we are is conscious. So if we're not conscious of our own conscious programs, we could say then as we're energy, our dominant observation is unconscious.

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So how many times do we hear people say that, you know, I keep attracting the same things into my life, the same problems, the same, same relationships. It's because they are collapsing the wave. They are literally manifesting unwanted outcomes because that is what they're observing. The moment someone changes their observation and they get a grip over their programs and they go, no, I'm not going to think negatively anymore.

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No, no, no. I do believe in myself and you know, I can invite magic in and I am open to opportunities. I can do this. And they mentally rehearse a future. Then what they're really doing is switching their observation. So as they switch their observation, they collapse the wave towards the outcomes that they desire. And then they start seeing conscious intentions come to life instead of unconscious intentions.

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And that's that's the observer. Oh, I love that so much. Such powerful insights. We suddenly have the sun coming in in a strange way and worry. So we're just going to close the blinds there. But we're just so excited to talk with you about all these topics and gratitude to. I love how you talk about gratitude. Can you chat about that for a second?

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Yeah. What is gratitude? It's a state of having something. You know, we've if you think of Christmas, someone hands you a gift, you say thank you. You know, it's an emotion. It's a feeling that we associate with having something with receiving something. But most people, when they're practicing gratitude in manifestation, are only grateful for what's in their life.

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Fine. That's that's how that's how we we use gratitude. Most people aren't saying thank you to the things that they desire before it's made manifest. So what happens there is they're living in lack. They're waiting for something that they desire to unfold, to say thank you. So it doesn't. It's not how it works. You have to shift to being, thankful for the thing that you seek.

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Now, now people will go. But that's delusional. That's delusional to say thank you to something that doesn't exist. Well, it does actually, because if, in the quantum field is an infinite amount of energy, what you desire already exists. So it's not delusional by saying thank you, now you become the observer for having it already, and therefore you speed up that process.

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And that's why you hear me say the universe always says yes, it can be no other way. If you want more money, the universe will say yes and you continue manifesting more wanting of money. If you want a relationship, the universe will say yes and you'll continue wanting your relationship. But when you say, I'm so thankful and I'm so grateful, I'm so blessed for all the abundance in my life.

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Universe says yes, gives you more abundance because you only attract into your life what you are. So that is how you use gratitude in a way. And I personally write down five things I'm grateful for every day and a combination. All the things that are already in my life that I want to be grateful for. Of course, like my wife and my son, but also things that are manifesting as if they're already in my life.

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Wow,

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that is just so compelling. So could you share, like, a real life success story where someone used manifestation techniques to reach like an outcome that they really desired? Sure. It's actually interesting because I was just on a call with this person, and I've included him in my upcoming book, because he's a great story. So I have a client called Bobby, and he's building a huge AI business to tackle, data decay in the health care industry.

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And I've been working with him for a couple of years. So quite a few of my clients stay on because manifestations a journey, not a destination. You manifest one thing and then there's always something else. You know? And back in 2023, he he was on the brink of collapse, actually, with this business, he needed to raise 250 K in a week.

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Otherwise the business was going under. And as you can imagine, he was stressed, pale, anxious. He he had at home a wife, two kids and a third child. The on the way, all under the age of three. So he had a lot of pressure on his shoulders. And I said to him, well, close your eyes and can you visualize an outcome of this problem being solved?

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And he did, and he visualized, you know, raising these 250 K and being able to meet sort of payroll and everything else. And we came up with this idea that he needed to embody his Super Bobby persona. So he had to become the version of himself in the future. Now in order to attract that into his life.

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And that's what he did. He he went away, and I actually lost contact with him for a month. He went away and he visualized in meditation, raising this capital. And he would do that in meditation because that's what we should do. We should slow down our brainwaves and visualize our future. And, after a month, we had another call and he blew me away.

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He said, I haven't just raised 250. I raised him just under $1 million in four weeks from the most unexpected sources out of the blue, and it saved his company. And these companies gone on to do incredible things. And I get this. I could shed so many stories, but I think that there is such a great story because he he was under a deadline and know he had a week.

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So many of us want things to manifest in a certain time frame, but not I don't think many of us have like these really strict some of his deadlines. And I think when we have these deadlines and these timescales, it creates even more pressure. It becomes even harder to embody, like a super person persona. So that was a great story of of how we did, especially in terms of where the sources of capital came from, which were completely and out of the blue.

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And that's the magic. Yeah, that's that's just great. Like, I also used your letter writing exercise to the universe. And just two days later, what seemed impossible at the time, at the exact moment I was writing the letter that manifest did. So there you go. Wow. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, it's it it's truly incredible. You know, and, in my experience, it will always manifest.

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The problem is, so many of us allow our ego mind to get in the way. And if it doesn't manifest in a timescale that we want, we can sabotage our own efforts. And then going back to the observer effect, it might already be on its way, but if it's not happening when we want it to, and we then switch how we start thinking, feeling and acting what we actually do, we start manifesting the opposite and we cancel out what we've already been doing.

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So, yeah, great. Great story. Yeah. It's just it's just kind of like learning to like, expect the unexpected because so many times it comes in ways or forms that you would just least expect. Yeah. Well, we're manifesting from, from if we get beyond our self, if we get beyond physical reality, if we start trusting in the magic of the infinite, the , you know, and it is an empty space, it's an space.

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You know, we don't. We're from the quantum, but we don't live in it consciously day to day. So, you know, if we start trusting in the unknown, we better get ready for the fact that it's probably going to come out of nowhere in the most unknown, unexpected way, you know? And that's what we should all lean into to the unknown.

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More. Yeah. For sure. So for our listeners, do you have like a simple manifestation exercise that people can do to start reprograming their brain now? Yeah. I think, the first thing I would say is you've got to become conscious first of your programs. So when you slow down day to day, we operate in what's called beta brainwaves, the storehouse of our programs of what's known as our subconscious.

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And that operates within the slow brainwaves of alpha, theta and delta. And those brainwaves we access naturally when we slow down and we rest and we sleep. But if we can start to meditate, we can listen to what our programs say about who we are and what we think about ourself. And actually, we can start to become conscious of our observation.

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And I think that is where people need to stop. So I would say, you know, yes, go and do a guided meditation. Of course, but actually it could be as simple as putting a timer on your phone for 20 minutes, half an hour, even having some soft music behind and just just becoming aware of what you observe. Because the truth is, and I always do this exercise in a podcast, but I think it's really powerful to to highlight when not our thoughts with the awareness above, you know, so if I ask you to to do this, you've probably already done it.

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If you've done five, of course, but we'll do it again. If I ask you both to close your eyes right now, and if anyone's listening to do the same if you're driving, don't. Of course, if you close your eyes and you say inside your head, not out loud, just say the word hello five times.

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And once you've said it five times, shout it as loud as you can in your head five, five more times.

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Once you've done that, open your eyes. I would then say. What did you hear? Did you? Did you hear the word hello? And you might have heard the word hello. Or you may have seen the words hello as you did that exercise. My question would be who heard my or who saw it? And people go, well, I did well who's I?

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Can you go well Jennifer. Paul. No, no, no. Those are the labels you were given when you go. And who heard it me on that. Who had who heard it is the awareness, the consciousness, the observer. Okay. The the hello is just a thought. It's just a word. So when we, when we, when we label ourself on the world.

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You. I'm not loved. I'm not good enough. Never got any money. Just a thought. It's just a word. It's not who we are. Who we are is pure awareness. So when we. When we realize the separation between thoughts and who we are truly, then we get our power back. We can we can reframe our thoughts. And that's what's really powerful because it starts there.

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And then what happens is this the more you do this work, manifestation becomes really fun and really easy because you start manifesting without really trying and you start manifesting outcomes in your life. You're like, wow, that's cool. And I wasn't even trying because your programs and also aligned with positivity and magic, that becomes your dominant observation of reality.

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You just can't help but collapse into fruition. And that's what's so good about doing this work. You know, we're always manifesting whether we know it consciously or not. It's not magic. My goal is just to help the people that are unconsciously manifesting become conscious. Oh, that's so fascinating. You know, we love looking at your Instagram clips that you put out each day.

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You explain things so well in such a concise yet powerful way. I hope people check out your Instagram. We'll put the link to it in the show notes. But you know, is there anything else you'd like to share about manifesting? Thank you for that. Yeah. I mean, you know, spoke about the power of observation. Whenever I work with a client, that is where to start.

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My core message actually is wanting equals lack. It's a paradox. Everyone. Most people want something in their life. And of course, it's the place to start. It's manifestation. You have to know what you want. But most people get stuck that they live in the lack they live in, the ones that are waiting for the outcome to manifest before they feel relieved, and before they feel grateful and so vibrate.

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So wanting vibrates at a frequency of haven't got lack. So we've got to really become our manifestations. And then again people go, but how do I like I've got money when I have, you know, how do I act like I'm in love when when I'm not? We've got to stop waiting for things outside of us to give permission.

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Because the truth is, if I could give your listeners any, any advice here is just make sure every day you're defined by your future, through meditation, through scripting, through daydreaming. Because when we can slow down our brain, the body, the subconscious body doesn't know the difference between what's real and what's imagined. And a great, analogy of that is everyone's experience, the nightmare.

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When we have a nightmare, we're normally in bed, safe, warm, protected from the elements of the outside. Yeah. Think about when we wake up in that very moment. Our body reacts emotionally as if that nightmares real heart's racing sweaty. And then we calm ourselves down and we go to dream. And in fact, only a a month or so ago, you know, Humphrey my, new baby boy, he's in the he's in the cot next to my wife.

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Of course, you know, every time he cries, just come out of the car. And I woke up at three in the morning and an absolute panic that for some reason, I thought that he. He'd got lost in the duvet. And for honestly, five seconds I panic, sheer panic, trying to throw the cushions on the floor and trying to look for him and even curse on my wife, like panicked.

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And then as I came about, I was like, well, no, no, it's fine, he's in the cot. And it's because in that moment in sleep, I was in theta and in theta it's known as the hypnotic state. If you ever go and have hypnotherapy or regression, they regress you to theta, because in theta you're highly suggestible. You don't know the difference.

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When we have nightmares, we're in theta, we don't know the difference. So my my question is why would you not put yourself in theta every day if you can't, or at least alpha and visualize your future because your body will feel like it's happening in real time. You'll believe it. So it's not faking it to you make it's feeling it till you make it.

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Oh, that's so good. Your teachings have been such a game changer to us. And you know the nice thing? We've followed you for a few years now, and we've seen how you how you actually practice what you preach. You walk your talk and you've seen it. We can see it in your life, how you've how you've manifested things and how you're using your own teachings to improve your life and manifest things into your own life.

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So, you know, we've taken your evolved program, and I'd love for our audience to know a little bit about that. Can you talk about your evolved program and where people can find it? Yeah. Of course. The simple way to find it is just go into my website, McCook dot me. And if you go on like my menu products, you'll be able to see my evolve course.

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It's a it's a very comprehensive but simple eight hour, manifestation course where it can be consumed on the go. It's not long winded. There's no like hour long videos and only, like, bite size ten, 15 minutes. I take you sequentially through a process of how it works. And my goal is that by the time you do the four core modules, you come out knowing, okay, this is how it works, and these are the tools, and this is what I've got to do.

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Included in the course also is a bonus module with I've started adding new content to like exploring even deeper concepts of manifestation as well as some guided meditations in there as well. So there's the library of guided meditations of the mind that people can listen to. And I, I slow you down to alpha and theta brainwaves. There's a way to do that.

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And then I get you to mentally rehearse, visualize your future. And that's how we love your guided meditations. We love them. We use them every day. We we subscribe and we we pay for other programs. But yours is the best. And we've taken some from some pretty famous people that yours is our favorite. And your meditations are our favorite.

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And I love the additional trainings you just added. You added something about vision boards and it was the most unique training about vision boards. I just loved it and we watched that. So that was amazing. So and also we heard you're having a retreat in New York. Yes, Canada. We're on the West Coast of Canada. You're all the way in the UK.

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So New York is a nice central place for people to connect with you. So tell us about your retreat coming up. Yeah. Thank you. So the Omega Institute reached out and they asked me to host a workshop the eighth, ninth and 10th of August this year, 2025. Some of the biggest spiritual teachers I've spoken there. There's a Ram Dass library, and I feel very honored to be speaking there.

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So it's in Rhinebeck, which is about 90 minutes outside of Manhattan, I believe 250 acre estate. Sounds amazing. There's other workshops that happen there at the same time, I think all the time. And you can stay on site in different cabins and you can camp there, and it's a really cool experience. My workshop is over. Three days.

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So Friday evening all of Saturday and Sunday. And my goal really is just to help everyone understand how they can consciously create diving deeper into the concepts that I've shared in this half an hour conversation, you know, and, going really, really deep, getting really clear on what it is that we want, getting deep on the unified field, the multiverse, the quantum field.

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How we can how we can meditate, the different ways to meditate, how to practice gratitude, how to do affirmations. Because everyone's affirming, whether they know it or not. Most people are unconsciously going, I'm not worthy. I'm not loved. You know, that's an affirmation. So how we can do and that's it. Just connecting with like minded people.

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As Paul wrote in my introduction to create Magic. Well. Yeah. So thank you so much for joining us today on the Inspiring Show. And you can find all the links and resources from today's episode at Inspiring show.com. And if you enjoyed our show today, we'd love it if you could leave us a positive rating or review on your favorite podcast platform or YouTube.

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It helps us to reach and inspire more listeners just like you. Our name is again our Paul and Jennifer Hensel, and thank you so much for being with us, Matt Cook, until next time you bye for now. Bye bye bye.